i havent seen farenheit 9/11 yet but im planning on it... as for moore's 'distortion' of the facts to heighten the presention of a particular ideological viewpoint, i still find him more honest than just about any other media outlet, at least in america... hes upfront about the ideology that informs his worldview, so when u watch any piece of work by him ure aware of that and can watch it accordingly.... not like 90% of media that wraps itself in a false shroud of objectivity, as if thats ever possible to achieve... its dangerous to read anything and believe that its a completely objective, unbiased point of view, every single thing in the media is driven a particular ideology..... even if what is presented is 100% factually correct, whats left out is just as important, and u have to ask why did they leave this or that piece of information out.... so moore twisted some facts to better fit the argument he presented and amke a flashier movie, so what... in this day and age how information is presented is just as or more important than what is actually being said... if it doesnt look and sound good then people wont consume it, just like they wont consume a shitty-looking pair of sneakers... its no different than what occurs on fox tv, cnn, cbc, new york times, globe and mail, etc....besides in the realm of human affairs how many solid facts are there.... sure the sky is blue and shit dont smell too good, but other than that everything can be distorted one way or another depending on the ideology u view the world through, like sunglasses with lenses of different colours... to an anti-choice (even the decision to choose that term is ideological, as opposed to pro-life) advocate it is a fact that abortion is the murder of an unborn baby, but a pro-lifer would definitely not agree with that.... it is downright foolish to demand objectivity from the media in a world ruled by subjectivity, the best u can do is to inform yourself of the ideology the information u are consuming is being filtered through, and either regard or disreagrd it accordingly

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Careful, Beck... You're starting to sound like Percy...

... Then I'll really be in trouble.

Yeah....
I still think a few well planned assassinations would be a good thing.

Bear in mind that Michael Moore DID in fact edit some of the clips featured in the movie to make it not entirely 100% true. But I s'pose you could argue it's an artistic-discretion designed to get an idea across.

Or as Morcheeba more eloquently put it:
"Who can you trust?"

Just saw Fahrenheit 9/11
Very well done, if you didn't already hate Bush, government and rich people you will after seeing this. If you did hate them, you will be reminded of why you do.
Hell, I feel like seeing how many people would chip in $5 for a few good assassinations!

So who's all going to soccer tonight? I wouldn't mind playing... but is anyone actually going?

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Who would have thought putting a side car on a vespa is a genious!

I mean look at this shit!!!!!!!!!!!!!



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Where did you find this out?