Apparently their technique was "wait till no one's looking then run like hell". But y'know, if you honestly can't make it to the show you can rest assured that Red's would've ruined it for you somehow anyways. It's pretty much inevitable with those guys.

Besides, there's a better hardcore show coming up on April 28th and 29th with Cursed and Mare!!!! I'm totally going to both of them. It'll be sweeeeeeeet.

I concur with Paras on this one. I think the public ought to be leery of P3s because there is certainly a lot at stake if things don't work out... for both sides... and often the ones left with the shortest end of the stick are the taxpayers...

but then again, I'm just cynical and biased, and miserably fed up with all the crap in the environmental field... which has a tendency to spill over into everything else from time to time...

yay counting berries. I think I understand why environmental sciences/ecology people do field work - it gets them out and not stewing on all the crap they'll have to deal with for the rest of the year. come on spring!

no way Vanessa. just roll up to the show and sneak in, like Taylor's friend Carlin. the only reason she got kicked out of Queens of the Stone Age was because she got way too plastered. just pretend to show 'em the ol' wristband and give 'em the ol' fuck' Q.

Ah, sorry about that. I've heard my fill of how great they are. Besides, what's really fair anyway?

no matter how much you try to scam....them's is smart at red's

when a show is sold out, it means you CAN'T get a ticket

To be fair, P, all those articles are taken from labour unions and their websites. I mean, if I were the contracted companies in these cases, I could write all the netstories I want about how P3s are the greatest thing for the public interest since VLTs.

Similarly, I don't expect labour unions to be unbiased about private ventures into public interest projects. Not that I'm commenting on the correctness of their analysis, but the source seems important here.

Pro-P3 poll doesn't tell whole story
Privatization threatens Olympic wastewater treatment

Calgary P3 Ring Road Will Be Highway Robbery, Says CUPE
CUPE

The picture isn't too rosy for P3s.

I thought I talked about the P3 scheme a few months ago, but maybe I didn't mention it to you. There doesn't seem to be much of a big deal, the companies build it and own it until the government buys it from them. The idea of P3 didn't go down too well though. The idea was opposed because the companies basically call the shots until the government pays their dues completely. P3 has been used to build a school (maritimes I think? The school ended up connected to a mall? Can't remember) resulting in some controversies as to how the schools are run and who's employed to maintain them, etc. So, it's good to remember that business and profit oriented companies don't often see eye to eye with government - er, people's - needs. In the case with the extension, it's basically a good chance for the businesses involved to show their worth and a steady source of income for the future - not to mention a promising environment with the government when they succeed. Whenever such a large project starts rolling there's bound to be some frustrations beyond anyone's control, but I'm sure everyone involved has already thought everything through (hopefully). If not, $$$.

okay, without giving too much away, I do support the individual in question, I just didn't under this circumstance. and i feel quite two-faced about it. but it typically wouldn't be a problem that I have this conflict, because even if I do spend a lot of time with them in the future, I doubt it will come up as an issue. ... it's just that there may be something else (unrelated to a certain extent) on the horizon that will definitely cause problems, and all I can say to that is fuck. fuck fuck fuck. I mean, yeah, I burned some bridges recently, but I was rebuilding, and this is threatening to take it all away. how am I .... ? fuck.

(and just for the record, none of you are involved in this, so don't think that I'm trying to say something to y'all... I just wanted advice, and thanks to those who have said something thus far.)