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November 23, 2005 -- 10:18 PM
posted by Par
i sures as hells am NOT going to apologize for telling you how much all of this means to meI think this pretty much nails it, for most of us involved. We shouldn't have to apologize for anything that's happened around all of this. We make choices, we try our best. If there's anything that would ruin what ngz is trying to do, it's making playing twister a chore. If I go, I go. If not, whatever. I'll try next time.
On a different note, I've felt this way for a while, but the things like these that you guys do amaze me. The art, the music, the activism, hipster twister, or whatever, it blows my mind. Literally, there is no way I can conceive of putting myself out there like that; it's just not in me. I have trouble in a role that isn't defined for me; a path that hasn't been taken before. That you guys can and do and succeed at endeavours like that astonishes me. I can't even bring myself to sing in public.
I'm still self-conscious about this webpage. I mean, here's a medium where I can literally fix anything that's wrong so people forget about the mistake, and I was still anxiously obsessed over it for a good month after it launched. As for my other project, I can't honestly conceive of iftv working and succeeding based on my work; I just can't picture that. My greatest comforts in that whole project are that someone else is taking care of the part of the website that people will actually see and that I have other people to fall back on.
I suppose the sentimental crap doesn't help as much as being there (something I try to do, perhaps not as much as I could.) In any case, that's how I see the people that surround me. Despite my attempts to sound full of myself (like the title of this page), I can't do it. There's just too many people around me who are far more capable than I am at too many things. I can't even pretend to be arrogant with any shred of competence.
Like I said, I don't think I (or anyone else) needs to apologize here. I consider the whole issue passed at this point. I just felt the uncharacteristic need to put that out there. (And thank
November 23, 2005 -- 9:01 PM
posted by eric
kay. this shit's getting too serious.
as i'd mentioned below, none of this was meant to be a Guilt Trip. i think i made that quite clear. i'm sorry if you guys should have felt that way, but that was never my intention. i'm not going to apologize for thanking my friends whom did show up last night, because they went out of their way in doing so. i had plenty of friends whom were wanting to and couldn't - i understand. i don't make it out to everyone's shows - we do our best right? also i sures as hells am NOT going to apologize for telling you how much all of this means to me, and in doing so maybe you'll really give coming out to one of our nights a chance. cause as i said before it's really fun.
Hipster Twister in and of itself isn't just some bullshit thing that i want to do to get popular (that would be absurd) or to make money (as i said i am straightup taking a hit on this) NO, the whole reason i'm doing this is because i feel it's my way of encouraging everyone to actually takes things upon ourselves and not bitch about how sucky everything is. or to even expect everything to just come our way. Yeah sure the Mod Club DJs suck - well instead of just complaining about it, we're trying to actually DO BETTER than the Mod Club DJs. and yeah Punk Rock Bingo was getting stale - so we're trying to make our own thing that's even more fun. i am sick of the idea of complacency, and even more than that defeating the defeatism of feeling like we NEVER/CANNOT ACCOMPLISH SHIT. all of this Hipster Twister stuff is an exercise in showing that, WE CAN FUCKIN' DO THIS. and this notion can be applied to anything else.
on the flip i think you guys should take the point seriously about supporting your friends - not neccessarily with HipsterTwister, but with any endeavour your friends are involved in. Like say for example, Al you just got a new job, and you really wanted everyone to come out and celebrate it with you. and let's say you wanted to go Go-Karting. what if a bunch of us weren't terribly interested in going Go-Karting? would we just NOT show up? HELLS NO. that's what friends are FOR - SUBJECTING THEM TO DOING SHIT THAT THEY TOTALLY WANT NO PART OF. In fact all human relationships are premised on this notion of compromise - and the compromise gets worse the more important the relationship.
examples:
Girlfriends and Wives- oh OFCOURSE YOU WANT TO GO SEE THE PERFECT MAN.
your parents, OH OFCOURSE YOU WANT TO GO TO DINNER THEATRE WITH THEM.
your younger sibblings: oh WHY WOULDN'T I WANT TO PICK UP THEIR DRUNK ASSES FROM A TWEENIOR HIGH PARTY?
kay anyways fuck all this shit, no one's gonna read any of this, and most of us are too stubborn to change, so cheers to the status quo yeah? word
November 23, 2005 -- 8:42 PM
posted by Al
I don't know man... I mean I'll go down one day but I don't want Eric to think I don't support what he is doing. I'm not there physically but my spirit is sure there. I just think we shouldn't expect everyone to always be there on a physical level. I mean I could be having a job in Calgary and there is no way short of owning a Grand Arms of getting back. I may choose to go to one event more but that doesn't mean I don't support my friend. And about staying up late, sleepiness and heavy machinery don't mix! And yeah we don't know what other people interpretation of fun is but that being said people might actually find hipster twister not their cup of tea. Not that we don't support Eric but some people may not find it very interesting.
And I can bitch more after getting a job! I just got more responsibilities dumped in my lap. And let's not even start with all the payments I'll have to make! j/k You know that's my style.
November 23, 2005 -- 8:00 PM
posted by anonymous
Like you said Al, it is about enjoying time with friends. and when a friend busts his ass to do something he enjoys, and feels others would enjoy aswell, a friend would support him in his endevours. actually a friend supports a friend period. I'm not saying you need to come to anything. I'm simply saying be a friend.
And how do you know if anyone else likes drifting other than yourself? what do you know about my interpretation of fun?
I had a shitload more written down, but felt it really didn't help anyone.
oh yeah, I also have 8:00 classes every day as well, and, I've only had one day off from either work or school since the begining of september. and that is just school and work, so don't be bitching to me about being too busy to give a friend some sort of respect.
congrats on the Job Al, and try to look on the bright side of life for once. You just got a job, and you are still bitching.
November 23, 2005 -- 7:46 PM
posted by Al
On a more negative note Al owes all of you big time. Show up at Chili's and Al will pay up.
So Chili's
whenever
Al pays up.
November 23, 2005 -- 7:45 PM
posted by Par
Dean Gray's American Edit (say it out loud... it'll sound familiar.)
I haven't listened to it all, but I can appreciate Doctor Who on Holiday.
I agree, Al.
That said, as I've already mentioned to Tony, I am going to try to make it out one night. I'm just not sure when. It's tough, and I hate having to pick and choose, but I can't change that.
November 23, 2005 -- 6:56 PM
posted by Al
Don't you think that statement is kind of subjective? I find going at breakneck speed around corner, reving to near redline before shifting, drifting 90 degrees around bends and going so fast you hope you don't hit something fun. That would be a fun evening but I don't think any of you would find that fun. So certain people don't want to go to Hipster Twister and some people don't want to go to Trivia night, you know what that's fine. I mean I do stuff and I don't see any of you there. Plus when you have to wake up early the next day and both these nights are on a Tuesday I can't really see myself going to either one much. So don't guilt trip people, we find different things intresting and fun, we don't have to do everything together. And believe me as we grow older different priorities will take over and we'll see less and less of each other. Just enjoy the time you spend with your friends, and if not everyone in your crew shows up that's fine they have a right to.
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