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June 15, 2004 -- 12:00 AM
posted by nobody knows my face
- oh yeah... I somehow neglected the word BASTARD which is also in reference to a man. For example, you'd never say "That bitch is such a bastard." But alternatively, an acceptable usage would be:
"That son-of-a-bitch is a real fuckin bastard." And we all intuitively understand that the speaker is specifically refering to a man.
June 15, 2004 -- 12:00 AM
posted by nobody knows my face
- I was just thinking about it... and I thought it was kinda interesting that the meaning behind so-called 'curse words' are often very gender specific. I don't mean in the literal sense like how 'douchebag' is a purportedly femenine 'hygeine product' (for lack of a better descriptor). But in terms of who these words describe. For example:
1. Ass MALE
2. Asshole MALE
3. Fucker MALE
4. Bitch FEMALE
5. Douche(bag) MALE
6. Motherfucker MALE
7. Slut FEMALE
8. Whore FEMALE
9. Cocksucker MALE
10. Son-of-a-Bitch MALE
11. Cunt UNISEX
12. Prick MALE
Of 12 of the most popular vulgar insults, 11 of them are reserved for reference to a person of a specific gender. Not only that, but each has a very specific definition of the negative traits associated. For example, while 'asshole' contains the root word 'ass', the meaning of the 2 words are nonetheless quite different. Specifically, an ass refers to a man who is making a fool of himself whereas an asshole refers to a man who goes out of their way to make people miserable.
Also, while my selection of 12 words is by no means scientific, it is interesting to note that 8 of the words are used to describe men, compared to a measly 3 attributed to women. Not only that, but the literal definitions of the words seem to be completely irrelevent when it comes to gender-referencing of the vulgarity; for example, a man can be a cunt a prick and even a cocksucker simultaneously.
June 14, 2004 -- 11:35 PM
posted by M. Mash
- eric, all philosophical quibbling aside, if u were to approach a group of black guys and say, "wuzuuuuuuuuuuup niggers," ur shattered body would be reclaimed from a dumpster... if u want to look at it from a purely pragmatic pov... damn the shit u learn in a soc class could get u killed if ure not careful... speaking of the "n" word, did u see what that group of "n"s on the pistons did to the "n"s on the lakers? i hope u did, because it was a great game.... not just that but a great series overall, definitely the best since 94... DEEEEEEEEEEETROIT BASKETBALL.... i just love the way those guys play, and for the first time in the playoffs they were executing their offense to perfection... i always said they had a great chance against the lakers but i never expected a blowout... in other news gary payton is a cunt, a giant smelly one with a yeast infection
love,
M. Mash
June 14, 2004 -- 11:27 PM
posted by P
- Feeling the love for Big Brutha yet?
And what's this validation of existence business?
June 14, 2004 -- 6:17 PM
posted by AD
- Yes, as Pete so lovingly put it, thank you Alison for giving my funny bone so much fodder. From now until we tire of it completely, the new insults will be "tampon" or "condom".
For example; AD, you are such a bloody condom!!
June 14, 2004 -- 6:07 PM
posted by anonymous
- Validating your existence and reason for posting.
I didn't want to sound like a nihilist but this was in reference to video games. Like in Link when you need to open doors you just destroy everything in a room. Or like in crazy shooter games were you destroy everything on the screen and the game then gives you answers. Yep just geting answers from life by kicking as much butt as possible.
June 14, 2004 -- 4:26 PM
posted by alison
- well fine then. It was just my opinion, and it appears that I have been overruled. no worries. I'll just continue to get my ire up over it. It's like cunt... and yes, I understand where you're coming from here, Eric. Sure, pop culture has taken this feminine hygeine product and turned it into an insult... but come on, we don't see people calling eachother tampons or condoms, now do we? And considering your Freudian analogies, why don't we come up with more mundane expletives then... seeing as it would be possible (through this frame of mind) to derogate any old word you wanted that was associated with humanness. you dustpan! : p (honestly not meant as an insult, merely an example)
And as for self-censorship, perhaps it was my choice to not say that word, but admittedly I was ignorant of this alternative definition, so you can't fault me for denying its existence when i didn't know about it at all. huzzah. But anyway, a person can choose to be aware of a multitude of words without using them and it doesn't necessarily mean they're censoring themselves. Self-expression can be changed depending on the words one chooses. I am not silencing myself by choosing not to use "douchebag" I am merely choosing a different way of expressing my thoughts. ... Most likely with "bastard," "asshole" or something along those lines.
June 14, 2004 -- 4:16 PM
posted by eric
- albert, annihilation can be beautiful- read Marinetti and the Futurist manifesto.
some info on the philosophy started nearly a century ago. try to not have the fascist infiltration taint your understanding of what Marinetti's original sentiment
http://www.futurism.org.uk/
