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On a different note, I've felt this way for a while, but the things like these that you guys do amaze me. The art, the music, the activism, hipster twister, or whatever, it blows my mind. Literally, there is no way I can conceive of putting myself out there like that; it's just not in me. I have trouble in a role that isn't defined for me; a path that hasn't been taken before. That you guys can and do and succeed at endeavours like that astonishes me. I can't even bring myself to sing in public.
I'm still self-conscious about this webpage. I mean, here's a medium where I can literally fix anything that's wrong so people forget about the mistake, and I was still anxiously obsessed over it for a good month after it launched. As for my other project, I can't honestly conceive of iftv working and succeeding based on my work; I just can't picture that. My greatest comforts in that whole project are that someone else is taking care of the part of the website that people will actually see and that I have other people to fall back on.
I suppose the sentimental crap doesn't help as much as being there (something I try to do, perhaps not as much as I could.) In any case, that's how I see the people that surround me. Despite my attempts to sound full of myself (like the title of this page), I can't do it. There's just too many people around me who are far more capable than I am at too many things. I can't even pretend to be arrogant with any shred of competence.
Like I said, I don't think I (or anyone else) needs to apologize here. I consider the whole issue passed at this point. I just felt the uncharacteristic need to put that out there. (And thankgoodness myself for the ability to edit the whole damn thing.)
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November 24, 2005 -- 9:59 AM
posted by Jsese
first of all, that mystery post was me, I was doing about a billion things and missed that little box so conveniently labelled Name: My apopolgies
Second: yay, actual comunication that delves a little deeper than the usual bullshit we wade through in our daily lives.
Third: Par, your board rocks. it has kept this group of friends together when most of us are simply too busy to go for wings or trivia or hipster twister or even bump into each other at school. I just want to say thanks for your time spent creating this sprawling monstrosity of a message board!
Fourth: My Humps! My humps, my humps, my humps!
Fifth: you can all ignore everything I said pretty much ever, exept the part of respecting and supporting friends.
Sixth: Won't someone please think of the children!!!
November 24, 2005 -- 7:40 AM
posted by Par
Gah. I hate you all.
November 24, 2005 -- 12:55 AM
posted by P
Sorry, but that's stuck in my head now.
Anyways, we all understand each other by now don't we? Now love dammit! I'm gunna hurt in the mornin'.
November 24, 2005 -- 12:50 AM
posted by P
I'll make love to you
Like you want me to
And I'll hold you tight
Baby all through the night
Does anyone else hear that?
November 23, 2005 -- 11:12 PM
posted by edo
You don’t want no drama,
No, no drama, no, no, no, no drama
November 23, 2005 -- 10:21 PM
posted by Par
Oh yeah, I'd just like to mention one other thing. If I give you shit about any of those projects that you're working on (*cough* Daggers CD *cough*), try to keep what I wrote in that last message in mind. It's not so much that I enjoy giving you guys shit (though it is kind of fun) but that I like seeing things work out (what can I say? I'm an optimist.)
November 23, 2005 -- 10:18 PM
posted by Par
i sures as hells am NOT going to apologize for telling you how much all of this means to meI think this pretty much nails it, for most of us involved. We shouldn't have to apologize for anything that's happened around all of this. We make choices, we try our best. If there's anything that would ruin what ngz is trying to do, it's making playing twister a chore. If I go, I go. If not, whatever. I'll try next time.
On a different note, I've felt this way for a while, but the things like these that you guys do amaze me. The art, the music, the activism, hipster twister, or whatever, it blows my mind. Literally, there is no way I can conceive of putting myself out there like that; it's just not in me. I have trouble in a role that isn't defined for me; a path that hasn't been taken before. That you guys can and do and succeed at endeavours like that astonishes me. I can't even bring myself to sing in public.
I'm still self-conscious about this webpage. I mean, here's a medium where I can literally fix anything that's wrong so people forget about the mistake, and I was still anxiously obsessed over it for a good month after it launched. As for my other project, I can't honestly conceive of iftv working and succeeding based on my work; I just can't picture that. My greatest comforts in that whole project are that someone else is taking care of the part of the website that people will actually see and that I have other people to fall back on.
I suppose the sentimental crap doesn't help as much as being there (something I try to do, perhaps not as much as I could.) In any case, that's how I see the people that surround me. Despite my attempts to sound full of myself (like the title of this page), I can't do it. There's just too many people around me who are far more capable than I am at too many things. I can't even pretend to be arrogant with any shred of competence.
Like I said, I don't think I (or anyone else) needs to apologize here. I consider the whole issue passed at this point. I just felt the uncharacteristic need to put that out there. (And thank
November 23, 2005 -- 9:01 PM
posted by eric
kay. this shit's getting too serious.
as i'd mentioned below, none of this was meant to be a Guilt Trip. i think i made that quite clear. i'm sorry if you guys should have felt that way, but that was never my intention. i'm not going to apologize for thanking my friends whom did show up last night, because they went out of their way in doing so. i had plenty of friends whom were wanting to and couldn't - i understand. i don't make it out to everyone's shows - we do our best right? also i sures as hells am NOT going to apologize for telling you how much all of this means to me, and in doing so maybe you'll really give coming out to one of our nights a chance. cause as i said before it's really fun.
Hipster Twister in and of itself isn't just some bullshit thing that i want to do to get popular (that would be absurd) or to make money (as i said i am straightup taking a hit on this) NO, the whole reason i'm doing this is because i feel it's my way of encouraging everyone to actually takes things upon ourselves and not bitch about how sucky everything is. or to even expect everything to just come our way. Yeah sure the Mod Club DJs suck - well instead of just complaining about it, we're trying to actually DO BETTER than the Mod Club DJs. and yeah Punk Rock Bingo was getting stale - so we're trying to make our own thing that's even more fun. i am sick of the idea of complacency, and even more than that defeating the defeatism of feeling like we NEVER/CANNOT ACCOMPLISH SHIT. all of this Hipster Twister stuff is an exercise in showing that, WE CAN FUCKIN' DO THIS. and this notion can be applied to anything else.
on the flip i think you guys should take the point seriously about supporting your friends - not neccessarily with HipsterTwister, but with any endeavour your friends are involved in. Like say for example, Al you just got a new job, and you really wanted everyone to come out and celebrate it with you. and let's say you wanted to go Go-Karting. what if a bunch of us weren't terribly interested in going Go-Karting? would we just NOT show up? HELLS NO. that's what friends are FOR - SUBJECTING THEM TO DOING SHIT THAT THEY TOTALLY WANT NO PART OF. In fact all human relationships are premised on this notion of compromise - and the compromise gets worse the more important the relationship.
examples:
Girlfriends and Wives- oh OFCOURSE YOU WANT TO GO SEE THE PERFECT MAN.
your parents, OH OFCOURSE YOU WANT TO GO TO DINNER THEATRE WITH THEM.
your younger sibblings: oh WHY WOULDN'T I WANT TO PICK UP THEIR DRUNK ASSES FROM A TWEENIOR HIGH PARTY?
kay anyways fuck all this shit, no one's gonna read any of this, and most of us are too stubborn to change, so cheers to the status quo yeah? word
November 23, 2005 -- 8:42 PM
posted by Al
I don't know man... I mean I'll go down one day but I don't want Eric to think I don't support what he is doing. I'm not there physically but my spirit is sure there. I just think we shouldn't expect everyone to always be there on a physical level. I mean I could be having a job in Calgary and there is no way short of owning a Grand Arms of getting back. I may choose to go to one event more but that doesn't mean I don't support my friend. And about staying up late, sleepiness and heavy machinery don't mix! And yeah we don't know what other people interpretation of fun is but that being said people might actually find hipster twister not their cup of tea. Not that we don't support Eric but some people may not find it very interesting.
And I can bitch more after getting a job! I just got more responsibilities dumped in my lap. And let's not even start with all the payments I'll have to make! j/k You know that's my style.
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